When Your Logic Accidentally Proves Crazy Stuff
"If that argument works, then literally nothing should exist"
🔥 Hook
Group chat blows up. Someone says homework should be banned because "forcing people to do things against their will is always wrong."
Sounds kinda reasonable for a second. But wait.
If forcing people to do things against their will is always wrong, then... seatbelt laws are wrong. Stopping someone from stealing your phone is wrong. Making toddlers eat vegetables is wrong. Taking a final exam is wrong.
Your argument just proved way too much. It didn't just ban homework — it accidentally banned everything.
🧠 What's Actually Happening?
This is called proving too much. It happens when someone makes an argument that, if you actually follow the logic, proves way more than they intended — including stuff that's obviously absurd.
The structure looks like this:
- Someone states a broad principle ("Suffering is always wrong")
- They use it to support one specific thing ("So we shouldn't punish criminals")
- But the same principle also supports insane conclusions ("So we shouldn't do surgery, exercise, or eat spicy food either")
If your logic proves too much, your logic is broken. Not your conclusion necessarily — maybe homework really should change. But that particular argument doesn't work because it's too broad.
It's like using a flamethrower to light a candle. Sure, the candle is lit. But so is everything else in the room.
📱 Real-Life Scroll
Discord debate: "You can't trust any news because all media is biased." If NO source can be trusted, then the person making this argument also can't be trusted. Their own claim destroys itself.
TikTok comments: "Grades don't measure intelligence, so school is pointless." Even if grades are imperfect, that logic also proves that driver's licenses, medical degrees, and pilot certifications are pointless. You want your surgeon to have passed their exams.
YouTube: "Corporations only care about money, so you should never buy anything from corporations." Okay, so no food, no phone, no clothes, no internet? That logic leaves you living in the woods.
School: "If we ban phones in class, we should ban all technology — including projectors and computers." That's the proving-too-much move: extending the logic to absurd extremes to make the original point look silly.
Family argument: "If you don't trust me to stay out late, you don't trust me at all." That logic says any limit on anything means zero trust. Parents who set a curfew also let you use the stove, walk to school, and make your own friends. Clearly they trust you with a lot.
🔍 How to Spot It
When you hear a broad argument, run this test:
- Identify the principle. What's the general rule being claimed?
- Extend it. What else would be true if this principle were absolute?
- Check for absurdity. Does it prove something obviously ridiculous?
If yes, the argument proves too much. The principle needs to be narrowed down, not stated as an absolute.
Red flag phrases:
- "All X is always Y"
- "You can never..."
- "If you believe A, then you HAVE to believe B"
- "That's the same as saying..."
💬 What You Can Do
When someone's argument proves too much:
- Show the extension: "By that logic, wouldn't we also have to say [absurd thing]?"
- Ask for limits: "Okay, so where does that principle stop? Because it seems to prove way more than you mean."
- Agree with the direction, fix the logic: "I actually agree homework needs reform, but the argument that all forced tasks are wrong goes way too far."
You're not attacking their conclusion. You're showing that their route to the conclusion has a hole in it.
🎯 Your Challenge
This week, find one argument online or in conversation that proves too much. Write down:
- The claim
- The broad principle behind it
- Two absurd things the same principle would also prove
Bonus: Try to fix the argument by making the principle more specific. "Forcing people to do things is wrong" becomes "Assigning busywork that doesn't improve learning is a waste of students' time." See? Same direction, no flamethrower.